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  • falseswamijifalseswamiji May 2011
    Posts: 255
    Our site was hacked again yesterday, this was the second time , and this time they really tried to delete everything.
    But..it is online again :)
    so, better luck next time mahahackers...
  • %5BDeleted+User%5D[Deleted User] May 2011
    Posts: 0
    BRAVO WEBMASTER!
  • While we are at it, please I want M G's picture back and the R.E.M. cover :-)
  • Roman May 2011
    Posts: 347
    What is that about, Usmeypuri, enlighten us :-)
  • Uh, falseswamiji's first version of the site had a great, revealing picture of swAmi on the main page, and a cover of REMs Losing my religion which then became my earworm for a while (is earworm English? a tune stuck in one's head)
  • Durchanand May 2011
    Posts: 74
    Hey boys - this picture of swAmi on the first version of the abuse website is originally an oil (?) painting by a guy who is just having his atelier right under Hamburg ashram.

    Have a look: http://www.artdoxa.com/users/Jochen_Hein/artworks?page=5

    and scroll down the page a bit. Seems like i should send Jochen my statement soon. When the abuse website was freshly on i got an email by MahawebmasterPuri who wanted the contact details of the artist. Maybe the picture vanished after a call from Vienna to that painter? I think the original is still standing there...
  • Roman May 2011
    Posts: 347
    Isn't hacking illegal after all? I think we should do something about this. As I remember, the server for sex abuse site is actually in the US. I have a good client and friend who works for FBI as a technology wiz and agent. Not that you need a friend here to report a crime. But he can give me some pointers. They really don’t like hackers of any kind. They also don’t like child pornography (…) and many other things. And they are really good at what they do. They cooperate with the Interpol so that hackers can be anywhere in the world and they can make their lives miserable. At least to monitor their internet presence and also their travel and possibly put some travel and/or computer restrictions on them. So if that thing happens once more on that or this site I won’t talk about it. It will be done deal. Why am I delaying it for one more moment? Like Tony, I don’t tell my friends that I had spent 15 years in a cult if I don’t have to. It’s a little bit embarrassing. But on the other hand, I ain’t chicken. I can handle it. Also, somehow, I have still a soft spot for one of the possible hackers. But it’s just one time offer. Once FBI looks at somebody, they don’t let go easy. They will know that I, Roman Peterka, who is a law abiding and tax paying US citizen has some enemies. Then Hackers and CoMasters should really pray to the guy with turban that I don't slip on banana peel and break my neck. FBI would have to start asking questions by default. And my friend travels a lot all over the world in line of his work.

    It’s easy to do sh…t stuff hiding behind the wall. Once that wall comes down, ooops… sh…t comes out with it.
  • %5BDeleted+User%5D[Deleted User] May 2011
    Posts: 0
    Romane,
    byl jsem s tebou kdysi v Indii, ale to s tebou byla ještě řeč.
    Sleduji tě v poslední době a tvé výlevy - jsi nechutný mystifikátor a hlavním důvodem toho je (i když si to nepřiznáš), že jsi zhrzený, zklamaný a neúspěšný exsvámí.
    Stydím se za to, že takový nevděčný ztroskotanec jako jsi ty, je také Čech. Nemáš vůbec ponětí, kvůli čemu doopravdy spustil Čitánand svoji očerňovací kampaň a ty ho teď v tom ještě hloupě a trapně podporuješ. Jednou se budeš kousat do jazyka až se dozvíš motivy a celé pozadí Čitánandovy kampaně.

    Petr
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    I can't see the discussion on esoterikforum.at anymore, seems that it now requires registration... can someone else confirm it? thx
  • the site administrator has put up a notice which says that he has removed the topic because he has received some legal threats and since he has not had time to look into the matter (he hasn't even read the thread) he removed it as a precaution, basically.
    ha, praise the US for once, with 1st amendment free speech protection, couldn't have happened in the US
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    :(
    I keep saving the contents of this site, the fakedisciple site, elizabeth's site and the abuse site as well... in case they might disappear... but I haven't saved anything from the esoterikforum... pity :(
  • Durchanand May 2011
    Posts: 74
    @all: did anyone of you mirror the esoterikforum.at discussion also by chance? At least I have all my posts and a lot of answers and other stuff here of course.

    Seems like Mahaprashadpuri wants to force us not only into other forums but also he wants us to get the press and the greater public involved. Maybe they did not want to write about all this in the beginning in Slovenia but gurus are always a hot topic in Germany and after the Nithyananda case from last year most probably also in parts of the Indian press (and this thing is even worse). Maybe we should write to his good friends the mayors of some peace tree sessions cities, those from the UN like Ramo Damodaran, the ambassadors of India in Czech Republic and Hungary just to name a few ideas - there is plenty of work to do. Let us make our work our worship :-)

    BTW, some people start calling me to ask if i am still alive if I do not answer their mails quickly enough or when i was not seen on the net for a day or so ...
  • %5BDeleted+User%5D[Deleted User] May 2011
    Posts: 0
    I have 60 copied pages, i think there were 65
  • satfinder May 2011
    Posts: 24
    edit
  • satfinder May 2011
    Posts: 24
    The Lawyer of the yidl have sent the letter - the
    warning before ...

    http://tinyurl.com/3egjh5g
  • %5BDeleted+User%5D[Deleted User] May 2011
    Posts: 0
    so better look for some Indian or USA forum for new discussion spot. What do you think about german esoterikforum, Durchanand?
  • satfinder May 2011
    Posts: 24
    @Durchanand
    In Slo is the action ... in the background
    [without journalists for now, ...] ...

  • %5BDeleted+User%5D[Deleted User] May 2011
    Posts: 0
    dear durchanand,

    cicis wife already informed all vips from UN already in february with cicis statement but now will be interesting to get their comments on that
    or they already reply but wife did not publish?
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    can anyone think of a way to have this forum more easily saved/mirrored/downloaded than manually copypaste the text from each topic?
  • truthseeker May 2011
    Posts: 541
    Swami Balendu is a former guru who gave up his 'guruship'. He says he doesn’t want to be anybody’s guru or master. He just wants to be a friend and share love.
    He often writes in his blog about fake gurus: http://www.jaisiyaram.com/blog/
    Today he mentioned:

    "We get emails in which we are asked to write more about fake gurus, in which victims and opponents of such groups give us names, stories and websites so that we can publish them on our platform and thus make them public for many to read. In this way it can save many people from bad experiences.

    I am happy to have your support and to read your comments which inspire me to write more. If you want to share your story yourself, you can write and post it in www.fake-guru.com, a forum that we opened for exactly this purpose. Those who want me to write about someone on my diary, please send me email to info@jaisiyaram.com and provide your information in detail. You can trust that I will keep your name secret. For me to be sure however that you are a real person, I would love to read your name rather than reading from an anonymous person. If you convince me that there is someone who did wrong and thinks wrong, I will give my support to the cause of making this public.

    I am not against any singular person or organization but against a system, an ideology and a certain mindset. Thank you again for your support!"

    Maybe a good idea to start a discussion on www.fake-guru.com? There are already three posts about swAmi there from february/march: http://www.fake-guru.com/fake-gurus/57-swami-XXXXX-yoga-daily-life.html
    I asked the administator of the forum if it's okay to continue the discussion there, I didn't get an answer yet. By the way, it's important to know that all posts are first judged by the administrator before they become visible in the fake-guru forum.
  • batawebatawe May 2011
    Posts: 409
    my opinion on Balendu's forum and "false-guru-multi-threading-posting-infomania-dissemination"!

    I understand the reasons to disseminate the information, "pro et contra", on every side in this "turmoiled internet times";), but because of logical and structural reasons and to maintain coherence and authenticity and self-standing freedom, I am not in favor of "multi-hosting" of 'foreign' events/information, on a single forum, about possible abuses or allegations regarding other masters etc., and he is doing it for his own reasons, namely - Swami Balendu. If that is his project, ok!, but it's not mine. I will rather open my own forum and do "my thing" and he can do his own.

    He may be out of the formal and official guru-game (and he supposedly was 3 years locked in a single room, no sun, windows etc...it's another topic,,,and came out with realization, that we are all equal and that he doesn't want to PLAY the role of a guru anymore etc.), but nevertheless, he remains some kind of 'guru' nonetheless, a friend like he says and he sounds believable, and it's ok, he looks like a cool guy, I am not speaking against...but to quote this passage:
    "I am not against any singular person or organization but against a system, an ideology and a certain mindset. Thank you again for your support!"
    Well, he remains in the mindset of his own culture (you can download mantras from the site, the ashrams are being bulit etc...it's ok, you must do something;), but still, to go against the system and mindset you must go against the rooted cultural elements, that he still maintains...

    what's my point? It's better to have this or similar site and stick to our own yard, and I don't see the reasons to frenetically post on every anti-guru forum in sense "look, our guru is also a (potential) abuser..."...I saw that Elisabeth, posted on the forum and formal admins response is just a tap on the shoulder: "Keep it on!"

    example:
    http://www.fake-guru.com/fake-gurus/57-swami-XXXXX-yoga-daily-life.html

    Dear Elisabeth,

    Thank you very much for joining our forum and telling about your experiences. We know it is not always easier for those who have suffered from their fake Gurus to talk about it later, even if there was no sexual abuse involved. The mental and psychological abuse has taken place and is often just as traumatizing.
    However I believe that you found a way how to work through your experiences with your website and it is great that you tell others about your experiences in this way, so that maybe some people can be saved from making those or similar experiences themselves.
    Please, even if you know that you will 'move on' keep your website up and let people get to know about it. It is important work!
    In order to get back into a normal life and finding your own peace inside yourself, you might enjoy reading Swami Balendu's diary . This is not advertising for a new guru for you No, just simple words from someone who has been on the other side, the side of the guru and has left that life. Just a normal person today, Swami Ji writes about his experiences of spiritual life.

    Whether you choose to read that or not, we will be happy to read more from you on our forum.

    ---I understand, let's warn people,,,let's disseminate links and information, but it looks somehow cheap...let me pin it on your 'house', so that other might see...and certain 'houses'/forums, are created for that same reason,,universal billboard of false-guru playlists...so, you can post link, but you get also an advertisement from the admin: "In order to get back into a normal life and finding your own peace inside yourself, you might enjoy reading Swami Balendu's diary . This is not advertising for a new guru for you No, just simple words from someone who has been on the other side...".

    Well, nice, but who cares...

    isn't the "Abuse site" and now "Roman's blog" enough?, and it's homely grown on our own soil, not on somebody else's, be it Balendu or Hajifajilamakuki...and whomever wants to find information will find it, even if there is just one "home-grown" site...no problem if you want to have forums like Balendu, and do your work of exposing the fake gurus,,,but we don't have time to do this, neither we need this billboards and scattered, frenetic, desperate, neurotic 'shouting' all around...let things stand on their own feet and leave Balendu-like-guys alone, it's much smarter if you ask me, if my point is somehow at least intelligible to some of you...if not, than please reply and I will further philosophically and logically explain...

    my answer to the question: "Maybe a good idea to start a discussion on www.fake-guru.com? There are already three posts about swAmi there from february/march: http://www.fake-guru.com/fake-gurus/57-swami-XXXXX-yoga-daily-life.html
    I asked the administator of the forum if it's okay to continue the discussion there, I didn't get an answer yet. By the way, it's important to know that all posts are first judged by the administrator before they become visible in the fake-guru forum."

    answer: no, it's not a good idea, at least for me...it's like jumping here and there...we can discuss topics here, why go to Balendu's house...

    isn't that logical?
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    Roman, can't we have an option to download all new posts on this forum to our email addresses automatically?... or an option for a once-daily mail?... or? or? or?
    (the more topics and more posts there are, the more it becomes difficult to download them)
  • admin May 2011
    Posts: 61
    We are working on to create mirror sites. Right now they are in hiding. They will be operational if the empire strikes again. And remember, I wasn't kidding with the FBI.

    Batawe, you are growing in front of our eyes. I think we will grant you 10 more words to each post :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) (these are not kisses, just smiles).
  • admin May 2011
    Posts: 61
    I am going to sleep now. I've managed to copy all the discussions. It looks like we are under some attack. Tomorrow I will check with the hosting provider and we will monitor the fake FTP accounts. If you are posting anything do not use any sensitive information until further notice. Have a great day! No more anonym user 1 – 5 sign up. Use an existing email, otherwise you won’t be able to sign up.
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    right now there is no swAmi abuse site on anymore!
    This was the 4th heck, am I right, webmaster?

    Is it possible to put the same website to more servers? If one goes, just the other one clicks on?

    If some money is needed for this, we should support our webmasters.
  • Durchanand May 2011
    Posts: 74
    seems like you can call the dogs, roman - the abuse website cannot be reached again!
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    Durchanand, do you know any way to put all the pages from the ex-forums reachable for all?
  • batawebatawe May 2011
    Posts: 409
    ;)), occasionally some of the posts will fall under my hand-control, but I will do my best to reduce it to the essentiality;), I accept the kissess;)))
  • Durchanand May 2011
    Posts: 74
    @ karavan and all: i do not know how to make that reachable for many on the internet. this is a question for our internet specialists. but at least someone sent me a zip file yesterday with pages 1-59 and 62. I myself have a part of page 63 copied on a word doc, the last one as i know. if that is needed by anyone please contact me.

    in the meantime someone sent p.60 to me :-))))
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    do you have 60?
  • truthseeker May 2011
    Posts: 541
    @batawe: I was thinking about www.fake-guru.com site as a replacement for those German speakers that don't speak English very well, as their esoterikforum discussion has been closed. Balendu lives in Germany and is married to a German woman and he is very much opposed to gurus who put themselves above others. He may be more loyal in keeping the discussion online than the esoterikforum administrator. Also, this Balendu knows a lot about Indian culture and probably also has lots of good contacts in India, so that maybe could be helpful in making things public in India too.

    It's also maybe a bit tricky that we have only got this forum left. It looks like it's well protected against attacks, mirror sites are in the make and Roman's got this FBI friend. But what if a lawsuit is filed against him by the Nort-American yidl? I don't think he has the same resources as swAmi (let's maybe call him mr. G from now on). Will we donate money then to Roman to pay for his lawyer? I don't know if this is a serious threat, I haven't watched the L.A. Law series enough on TV :)

    But I understand your objections, they have been in my mind too.
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