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ARTICLE IN SLOVENIAN PRIMORSKE NOVICE MAGAZINE:

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CALL TO ALL OFFICIALS OF THE ORGANIZATION

English, Croatian, Czech, Hungarian, Slovenian, German, Serbian

fight club aka vampires vs. robots
  • Australia_CallingAustralia_Calling May 2011
    Posts: 42
    Well, i am new here and i decided to post in the corner for positive thinking, which seemed a good place to start but now i see there are vampires and robots and even the muppets and mud here so i am not at all sure i have landed in the correct quarters, but nonetheless... one has to start somewhere.

    Today there is some news from Australia that perhaps one or two of you will take some interest in. I was told today they had a meeting of all the people who run the centres and many people resigned, even the national co-ordinator who everyone knows has been keeping the whole thing going for years. Also all of the teachers from brisbane walked away, so nobody will be left there at all and the centre will most likely close down. The retreat place in Dungog has no teachers any more. This is a major thing in Australia. I was told the centre in Perth closed a month ago and we never heard a thing about it really.

    Wow, you have to wonder if anything will survive? There will be some meeting where people get to vote on what to do next. So i wonder what we have to vote on exactly.

    I honestly hope something positive will come of it all, that's why i posted this comment here. I trust those of you who are regular here will protect me from the vampires and the like.

    Will keep you posted if i hear more.
    Please pray for me that i am not visited by the vampires.
    (only if you believe in vampires and prayers that is)

  • VeritasVeritas May 2011
    Posts: 218
    Reply to @Australia_Calling:
    Welcome to the show and thank you for sharing the information.

    There is nothing to fear but fear itself. image
  • mangal May 2011
    Posts: 489
    It is very very usefull that someone share info, thanks a lot of:) It would be good if people from different countries give info what is now in their country. In czech-nothing-information blockade-Cici is guilty for everything.....
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    SLOVENIA:
    1. chichi making everything up
    2. testiomny No 1 is the only one and is ill (shizofrenic)
    3. there are no 2-6 testimonies becouse No1 faked their stories
    4. 3rd opinion suddenly apeared- no metter what guru did, he is still my guru (it means they believe to abuse but they tolerate it)

    They prey 2 hours per day for the light to keep YIDL away from devil, sing badjans and think positive.

    Outside view: for people out of YIDL it is clear what is what, they believe to sexual abuse and warning others against dangerous cults
  • Australia_CallingAustralia_Calling May 2011
    Posts: 42
    Reply to @karavan:
    karavan here is an english lesson offered with respect for you.
    maybe you did mean actually what you say - i'm not sure - if you did then please accept my apologies for this means you have a better grasp of English than me.

    "They prey 2 hours per day"
    prey = to exert a harmful or destructive influence
    pray = address a request to God
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    Reply to @Australia_Calling:

    I:) my english :) I meant pray but in fact is pray too :) from what they do
  • Ivan May 2011
    Posts: 161
    Croatia: recently saw a group of older disciples (some of them knowing everything); they even didn't want to say hi :-) Diagnose: ? better not to know the mindset.
    I'm amazed by the Sebian and Australian reaction... Great people. Although the vast majority of abused girls are from Croatia, Slovenia and Austria (as much as I know) these remaind the fortresses of YIDL.
  • Roman May 2011
    Posts: 347
    Reply to @wideawake:
    Good luck to you all and thank you for upholding your integrity.

    Roman
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    Why Slovenia, Austria and Croatia remaind the fortresses of YIDL?

    Becouse the leaders HAVE KNOWN about these abuses SINCE LONG, some of them PARTICIPATED in this in the past or even present, some main leaders DO THE SAME and take advantage of THEIR POSITITONS!

  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    I am sure despite the old desciples in these countries keep their eyes, ears and breins closed, Yidl in these countries is politicaly so much damaged that there is no place for any political action, big peace meetings with politicians and getting new stupid sheeps in crouds anymore. The new sheeps will be warned and the culture homes will think twice to invite YIDL in every slovenian village under the cover of health and happines. This fase is over.

  • VeritasVeritas May 2011
    Posts: 218
    This is a call to all the officials of the organization.

    We particularly address these lines to the people in charge, like presidents,
    vice presidents, club treasurers of the local organizations, as well as all
    members, who hold any position of responsibility within the organization.

    We ask:
    What is your position? Did you follow your obligation to investigate
    the "accusations" in a responsible and proper way? What efforts have
    been made to get in any dialogue with those, who oppose your master?

    If so, what is the outcome of your investigations? Whom have you spoken
    to? Don't you think, that is your duty to represent the interest of all
    the followers, or do you think your duty is, to represent the interest
    of the man on top?

    With which activities have you spent your time the last couple of months?
    Were you busy in the cover-up activities or were you busy in hiring lawyers
    to make threats to the webmasters of the sites with critical content?
    Or did you just dig your head in the sand, pretending nothing has happened,
    that would require your action?

    Allow me a personal remark: This suppression politics remind me of totalitarian
    systems like communist China or the former CCCP. You really want to be a
    part of this?

    So here is your chance, show your integrity and civil courage by getting
    real, come here http://www.sexabuseyidl.net/discussion/comment/1337#Comment_1337
    and speak your mind. Even if you think, that your master is accused by the
    demonic evil force, come here and speak up for your master or explain your
    actions.
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    To the members of the board: You can copy these lines and forward them to all of them, who you know inside the organization, especially persons with positions inside
    the organization.
    Thank you.
  • mangal May 2011
    Posts: 489
    Reply to @Veritas: It has no means to send it-they will delete every mail immediatelly. They dont want to be make dirty by such negative actions.....they are cleanest of cleanest and honest and so on-the tactics with deleting every imperilling info mail is very wise-in order to keep disciples in line...
  • Roman May 2011
    Posts: 347
    Reply to @mangal:
    You are probably right about the mailing part. But they can find it here. They cannot delete it from here and you bet they've been reading this forum.

    Let's take a vote:
    Should we post "Call to all the officials of the organization" also separately in the heading links of our home/all discussions page?
    Post your votes in this thread. No explanations. Just vote: for or against it.

    It will be up for counting 24 hrs from now which is:
    US Eastern time 11:38am
    Central Europe: 5:38 pm
    Sydney, Australia: 1:39 am

    As of now the count is: 2 votes for (Veritas, Roman)
  • truthseeker May 2011
    Posts: 541
    Reply to @Roman: I vote for
  • Ivan May 2011
    Posts: 161
    Reply to @Roman: iVote 4
  • admin May 2011
    Posts: 61
    I second that.

    Roman/admin
  • admin May 2011
    Posts: 61
    Also, can we get the translation of this document called "Call To All The Officials Of The Organization" in:
    German, Slovenian, Croatian, Serbian, Hungarian, Polish and Czech?

    Send them to admin@sexabuseyidl.net

    Thank you,

    Roman/admin
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @admin: i'll do the hungarian...
  • admin May 2011
    Posts: 61
    Reply to @someonefromhungary:
    Thank you. No vote? Expose your hidden thoughts :):):)
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @admin: I did the translation and I vote for... but I have to admit, dear veritas, that I would have preferred much less passion/rethoric... because it produces more passion/rethoric in the readers/addressees and more energy is spent on fighting labels, concepts, metaphors and mere words of passion... and it just gives the other good reasons not to listen to the point you actually want to express... is this what you want? is this what we want?
    and now that I have fallen into my own catch 22 with rethorical questions I check out :D
  • karavan May 2011
    Posts: 135
    Reply to @someonefromhungary:
    yes, in this way - with passion and retoric questions- we will get back nothing or retoric answers, and it is just about the football game and who is the best (the worst).

  • VeritasVeritas May 2011
    Posts: 218
    Reply to @someonefromhungary:
    Thank you for translating and thanks for your support.
    I do agree with you. As I wrote these lines, I did not expect that massive support by you and the others. Thank you for that.
    I am very much aware of the flaming content and I put it there on purpose,
    which was, to provoke those mentioned people in charge, who would be here and read, to get involved in the discussion.
    But as things have developed now, I clearly understand, if we pick up on the
    suggestions made here, it would be better to remove the provocative and
    personal parts. I trust you and your judgement to change these particular lines in to a more civil appearance.
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @Veritas: yes, I understand... and thank you for the initiative anyway... but may I suggest you rewrite the whole call?
    I am just a C3PO type of translator robot, if I take out all the passion, my programs will crash and my internal licences will be invalidated, so have mercy on me ;)
  • VeritasVeritas May 2011
    Posts: 218
    Reply to @someonefromhungary:
    Here you go image

    This is a call to all the officials of the organization.

    We particularly address these lines to the people in charge, like presidents,
    vice presidents, club treasurers of the local organizations, as well as all
    members, who hold any position of responsibility within the organization.

    Please answer these questions:

    o) What is your position?

    o) Did you follow your obligation to investigate the "accusations" in
    a responsible and proper way?

    o) What efforts have been made to get in any dialogue with those,
    who oppose your master?

    If so,

    o) what is the outcome of your investigations?

    o) Whom have you spoken to?

    o) Did you follow your duty to represent the interests of the
    followers?


    o) With which activities have you spent your time the last couple of
    months?

    o) Were you busy in the cover-up activities or were you busy in
    hiring lawyers to make threats to the webmasters of the sites with
    critical content?

    o) Did you do nothing, convinced nothing has happened, that would require your action?
    If so, what was the base of your conviction?

    So please come here http://www.sexabuseyidl.net/discussion/comment/1418#Comment_1418 and explain your actions.

    Signed by members of http://sexabuseyidl.org
  • someonefromhungary May 2011
    Posts: 334
    Reply to @Veritas: great :) :) :) C3PO will have it processed :)
  • batawebatawe May 2011
    Posts: 409
    4
  • zazaza May 2011
    Posts: 5
    vote +1 :)
  • pavitra May 2011
    Posts: 270
    I vote for
  • mangotree May 2011
    Posts: 118
    vote for
    actually members could also table that doc and ask those questions at next society meetings that members can attend or send a physical hard copy of this in a letter so it also can't be deleted as email, or passed over - then board members will be complicit or negligent if they don't follow up and further allegations surface in their country.
    Request a written response from your board and follow up with your local authority if they do not respond.
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